Boat vs Air Transport

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Boat vs Air Transport

Postby jjs6791 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:13 am

Hello, my wife and I are moving from Washington DC to Hobart, Australia. I received a quote from Paxton, who I was impressed with. The difference between Air transport and Ship is only $1700. Air would be 14-21 days and Ship 6-8 weeks. I'm a bit surprised that the cost difference isn't significantly more. Does this sound right? Thanks.

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby JAHaddow » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:19 am

Please provide how much weight and cubic feet they have quoted. It is rare that the cost difference unless the amount being shipped is under 100 cubic feet. Air freight is real expensive, especially if you have light weight and or bulky items. Air freight is billed at about 10.25 lbs per cubic foot.
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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby jjs6791 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:24 am

Thanks

1145 lbs / 163 CFT for air
1145 lbs / 295 CFT for ship

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby MusicMom » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:05 am

I'm curious how the two are very different for volume. Pros, are things packed differently for air versus ship?

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby Noone » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:21 pm

Those weight/volume estimates don't make any sense to me, either.

Did they come to do an in home survey?

Did they explain the difference in volume?

Most importantly, did they base the air charge on actual weight, or volumetric weight? If you really do have 165 cubic feet, I would expect your volumetric weight to be higher than 1145 LBS, meaning your final charge would be more.

Volumetric weight means that each cubic foot is billed at AT LEAST X pounds, even if the actual weight is less. Different air carriers will have different formulas, so I can't tell you what X will be.

On a shipment of 165 cubic feet, the difference may well only be $1700, but I think there is more than meets the eye here, and I would need to see the full quote to better help.

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby jjs6791 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:31 pm

Thanks for the reply.

Yes they did an in-home estimate.

I have not received an explanation about the volume difference but will ask.

I just noticed this in the quote

All air freight rates are quoted on gross weight based on a minimum 10.4lb / ft3 density.
All sea freight rates are quoted on net weight based on a minimum 6.5lb / ft3 density


Does that help at all? Thanks again

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby Noone » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:57 am

That helps a lot.

Find out about the difference in volume. I am assuming you showed the same goods for either shipment - is it possible that you marked some goods as only going by sea?

If, in fact, you have 165 cubic feet by air, your price will be based on 1716 LBS - so ask your salesman if the price you got accounts for that, and if so, make sure it is marked on the quote. If not, find out the cost will be based on a volumetric (or chargeable) weight of 1716 LBS.

Based on 295 cubic feet, your chargeable weight will be closer to 3068 LBS, so find out how this will affect the sea pricing. My guess is that only the origin work (Pick-up, packing, trucking to the consolidating warehouse) will be affected by weight. The ocean and destination are probably based on volume. This means that the difference for actual versus chargeable should be less on sea than the difference by air.

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby jjs6791 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:56 am

Ok thanks again.

I need to discuss with the rep, but I believe what you're saying is that there is most likely going to be a bigger difference between the quote and actual charge for air, and less difference between quote and actual charge by sea.

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Re: Boat vs Air Transport

Postby Noone » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:02 pm

Correct,

But also, the rep should calculate the quote based on chargeable weight/volume since it seems (in both cases) that chargeable will be more than actual.


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